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Are there no honest Cubans?

by Erica
(Ontario)

I'm so glad to have found this site, as I have leaned so much.

My story starts like most, I met a musician at the resort (I know, I know!). I thought he was cute and saw him most days at the resort where we exchanged smiles and eye contact. 2 days before I left, I actually appproached him. We talked, hit it off and eventually became intimate, which was one of the most passionate I had ever felt. We are the sane age, is a good looking guy, and I am a good looking girl and I felt like we had a real connection and attraction. I was left wanting more of him! We exchanged phone numbers and I gave him my email address. His brother has access to email through work and speaks very good English and emails me daily.

I had decided that I wanted to go back to Cuba, to spend time with him again and to have some more relaxation time. I just really wanted to see where things went as no man has ever made me feel that way before. I read all these posts before making my decision. I knew the risks and decided that they may be using me for money, but decided I would also be 'using' them for a good time in Cuba and a memorable vacation. I decided I would take the chance and booked the trip. I leave in 3 weeks.

I spoke to him on the phone today, and alas my suapicions that he was using me were confirmed. He asked me if I could bring him a Canadian cell phone with me because his father was in the hospital in Santiago and it costs too much for him to call. He also said there were 'many problems with his work contract' and he might loose his job.

Now, my plane is already booked so I dont know what to do! Obviously he sees me as a walking CuC. I want to go spend time there and would be willing to help them in the small ways I can.. Taking him and his brother out for a meal, binging them little things like cloths my family no longer wear, etc... But now that I feel pressured, are they going to be offended!!!

Are ALL Cubans like this? It's so disapointing to me to have come to this realization.


Comments by Vic webmaster

Make it clear from the first moment to your Cuban
friend that you are on a tight budget and that you are no walking ATM. If you like it you can buy a cheap cellphone....but than it starts....
Cubans have to buy an expensive prepaid phonecard (10 cuc for 10minutes) the sim card activation will cost you 40cuc (before it was 120cuc)and they have to reload the phone after 2 (3?) months to save their activation. An ongoing cost....
Note that the average Cuban salary is 20 Cuc and a prepaid phone card cost 10 cuc. Who is going to pay? (the yuma, the foreigner)
Another observation: Cubans sell most of the stuff they get from foreigners for money...
Put yourself in their place, they also like good food and a few drinks.
Sure there are several honest Cubans, but the younger generation does a lot for good food, booze and bling, bling. They are just like humans
in most other countries.


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Nov 12, 2015
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They See Us As A Walking Wallet ! NEW
by: Anonymous

You are naive if you think a Cuban man or woman is with you for love. I do not think they know the meaning of the word.

Their sole mission is to get the hell out of poverty, be flown (at your expense) to Canada the USA or Europe and proceed to send as much money home to their family as possible.

When in your country they will always play around, and if they cannot locate someone that takes their fancy they will scour the dating sites. You will see them on Match.Com, Tagged etc. usually wearing sunglasses, sometimes posing with their kids, all seeking a woman, usually posing as 'single'. Some will admit to having a wife but will tell you that they only married to get a visa and /or money.

That is the reality my friends, you are being used.

If you happen to be less attractive and older the chances of you being used are far greater. So many older unattractive overweight Caandian and American women get used in this way.

They invest a fortune in those gigolos whom they know in their heart are using them, but there is an element of masochism in these women, they are deluded and continue to pump the money into these losers who are using them as a doormat and a personal bank.

These losers milk them for every dime they can get. Some convince these sad old women and men to invest in restaurants and bars back home which of course will always be in their name, no foreigner can ever own a Cuban property. So the gigolo will benefit, also his family. This will also provide him with the perfect excuse to be with his Cuban novia while pretending to be 'taking care of business' Yeah right.

These women should look in the mirror (the old men as well) and ask themselves do their jiniteros/jiniteras really love them, would they be with them if the cash supply was cut off?.

We all know the answer. Sadly they go along with the con until they have been pushed into bankruptcy by these cold conniving Cuban con men and women.

Oct 29, 2015
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Oct 15, 2015
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Sep 17, 2015
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Informative NEW
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Sep 11, 2015
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Reply to Leshira - Omar is A Married Love Rat! NEW
by: Wake Up Call

To Leshira who enquired about Omar who is the handyman/gardener at Don Lino. He is happily married and has no wish to move out of Cuba.

But he is more than happy to play you along so long so long as you keep bringing him expensive regalos and giving him money.

Don Lino is basically a brothel, 90% of the clients are Canadian men in their 60's and 70's who book in local prostitutes at a rate of $40 a day, and security are in on it also the manager the vile Julio who ordered the hotel dog Taco be killed, strangled last year.

There is a prostitution ring at Don Lino organised by a Madam who lives in Holguin and finds the clients online, she sends them pics. of local girls.

To anyone thinking of booking this hotel avoid if you value your health, we spoke to the resident doctor and he said the working girls are riddled with STD's he constantly runs out of antibiotics and creams for herpes. So be very careful, these girls change partners quicker than they change their pants.

With regard to Omar he is playing a lot of deluded women of a certain age. There is one in particular - Tamara, in her late 40's 200 lbs who flies in regularly to meet him in the deluded believe he is her 'fiance'

Staff laugh when they see her giving him expensive technology, they know he is using her. He has no plans to leave Cuba and is happily married with three kids. But he is happy to use any woman dumb enough to pay him.

To me the dude looks gormless, with his straw fedora. He is nothing more than a male whore.

So please do wake up. He's as much a hooker as the working girls from Holguin.


Jun 25, 2015
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May 10, 2015
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Pool guy/gardener at Don lino, Holguin NEW
by: Leshira

Please help, if possible. I know it's crazy, but I'm obsessed with this man who works at Don Lino hotel in holguin, name begins with O.
He told me he's divorced, but I suspect he's married, or common law. I don't know what's wrong with me, but he just does something to me like no one I've ever met.
I imagine he plays other tourists, I'm crazy to keep seeing him.
If anyone knows him, please put me out of my misery, I know I've let him get under my skin, but it hurts.
Thanks.


Apr 13, 2015
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How I Get My Husband Back With The Help Of Dr Brave NEW
by: Anonymous


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Mar 27, 2015
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Very Few Honest Cubans NEW
by: Jeff - Ottawa

Cubans born after the revolution seem to think that life owes them a living.

They are always on the hustle. You find these chancers working at the resorts. they even pay to get those jobs which are the best paid in Cuba.

You cannot walk through Havana for hustlers, jiniteras, hookers, transvestites, con men.

I read the press reports spun by their tourist board and found the reality to be so different from the fairy tale spun by the CTA. Sure there is UNESCO buildings, but after you have seen the colonial architecture you have to contend with the endless hassle of the hustlers. The broken pavements, the smell wafting up from the port if you are unfortunately enough to be domiciled there in a hotel or happen to be waiting for a coach to take you to Varadero.

The Cubans born in the 70's and 80's are computer and hustler savvy. They know what they want, and they all want the latest ipad Samsung iPhone, ipod, you name it and they expect gringa to supply it.


Like I said they think life owes them a living, you owe them all the expensive regals you can carry there.

But you do not!. You know when you are not there they will be playing at least three Cubans and countless gullible yumas.

Do not trust them. They are all promiscuous. If you do sleep with one of them make sure to wear strong protection or you may fly home with more than a bottle of Havana Club!.


Jan 31, 2015
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by: Anonymous

I have seen this so called 'gringa' playing her bike polo with, and to use her own terminology - 'Mulatto Ass' in Havana.

This is how she describes Cubans in her blog 'Here is Havana' , her filthy potty mouth, when referring to the colonists who first landed in Cuba, were seeking according to her...

'A piece of Mulatto Ass'.

How vulgar, how tacky, how New York!.


Sad to see a fifty something while woman trying desperately to be young, relevant, sexy, when she is none of that.

According to the guys who participate in the bike polo Conner is paying them, sponsoring them.

How very desperate is that. No doubt the Cuban hubby has also fleeced her and cheated, now she has turned her affections to the young black boys of Havana Vieja in order to get some attention.

As the last poster mentioned..'Generation Y' she is not.




Jan 28, 2015
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Oh My Giddy Aunt! NEW
by: Anonymous

Referring to the 'Ex Pat Jinitera in Cuba' I spotted her in Havana when we were there last month.


A fifty something unattractive gringa/ expat playing bike polo with young poor black boys from the barrios of Havana Vieja.

This broad thinks she's the bees knees. Thinks she is the 'Voice of Cuba'.


But to be honest her blog - Here Is Havana is about as authentic as the Housewives of New Jersey or Keeping Up With The Kardashians.

She looks like someones giddy elderly aunt trying desperately to be young and relevant playing 'bike polo' with these young afro Cuban jiniteros who are clearly using her for all they can fleece her for.

This old gal 'aint too bright. She has put up with a philandering Cuban husband for the past 13 years. Bought this dude a car.



When you consider a car in Cuba can set you back at least $70,000 minimum, she is not too bright.

Clearly the husband is playing away so she has turned to Havana jiniteros in a desperate move to prove to herself she is attractive to men.

Wake up Gringa!!. You live in a country that is overflowing with gorgeous babes, three decades younger than you.

They are latino. they are Cuban they are sexy, young. You are not!

You're an unattractive 50 something broad who is delusional in the belief that you are some kind of expert on Cuba and all things Cuba. You are not!!.

Stop thinking you can purchase love with an expensive car or a bicycle for a male hooker. You can not.

Love can not be purchased. A Jinitero can however be purchase and that is precisely what you have done.




Jan 21, 2015
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Ex Pat Jinitera NEW
by: Anonymous

I agree with Keith's comment below. The only thing 'Cuban' about this blogger Conner is that she has become a Jinitera since moving to Havana.

She regularly requests books, condoms, cell phones and Hershey's chocolate syrup for her shop in Vedado.

All I can say is that this woman cannot be too sucessful as a writer if she has to depend on tourist handouts to survive in Havana.

How is an English book shop benefiting local Cubans in any way, even those who speak a little English? This shop is only of benefit to the hustler/jinitera herself and her layabout buddies who spend all day in her cafe sitting around in hammocks and taking advantage of the many freebies dropped off by tourists.

Her cynical view of Cubans is distasteful. She refers to them as being incapable of fidelity, of leading 'double lives' always having a partner on the side.

She judges all Cubans by her own low moral standard. Why label all Cubans serial cheaters because her own Cuban husband cheated on her.

Little wonder she is single.

She is also obsessed with sex. Constantly referring to the subject in her blog. You know what they say..'If you have to keep writing and talking about it, it shows you are not getting any'.

And do you wonder why. If you take a look at her she is hardly what you would describe as 'sexy' or even attractive.

A very opinionated loud, pale, skinny, thin-lipped acerbic middle aged gringa is hardly appealing to the average Cuban man.

Especially one that has beaten them at their own game and morphed into a Jinitera/Hustler.

Jan 19, 2015
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Keith NEW
by: Even the Ex Pats Are Scammers!

I think it's unfair to label all Cubans as scammers when if you get off the beaten track, travel around Cuba you will find genuinely good Cuban people who are kind hospitable and will share with you the little that they have.

Some of the biggest scammers are the middle class Americans who live a very nice livestyle in middle class Vedado and who still act as Jiniteras.

There is a middle class mid 50's New Yorker who writes a blog - Here Is Havana who is regularly hustling tourists for free books, condoms and more recently a cellphone.

This yank claims to have 'gone native'. Well if youread her 'blogs' she is about as native Cuban as the 'Real Housewives of New Jersey'.

In her mid 50's she uses a profile pic. that was taken at least two decades ago and is beginning to look very blurry.

One of her blogs 'Six Annoying Cuban Habits' is patronising in the extreme, especially when you consider that this woman's middleclass lifestyle is light years away from the average Cuban's.

She lives in leafy middle class Vedado, home to government offices and embassies. She attends art reviews and book readings, jazz concerts. She blogs about attending Harley rallies in Cuba and heavy metal concerts.

How are any of those topics Cuban? In her latest post she claims to be knowledgable since she 'lives with 11.5 million Cubans' Lol.

This middle aged matriarch is about as 'Cuban' as Kim Kardashian She grew up in New York and has written for Lonely Planet, a guide book that has not updated it's hotel reviews for at least 10 years. If you read through any of the editions the reviews for the Varadero hotels are identical, in the second series and the fifth.

This is a woman who travels freely around Cuba. When you offer free publicity to an establishment you are 'hosted', i.e. you do not pay for you stay. How can she be an honest authority on that hotel or restaurant?.

Personally I have never used a guide book and I travel extensively around Cuba, by camione, collectivo. Unlike Ms Conner Gory who travels by Harley Davidson lol yet claims to be 'Native Cuban'.

She sees herself as some kind of expert on all things Cuban and Cuban people. She writes about Cuban's promiscuity, telling readers that they 'love to sow their wild oats'. How sex is so prolific, how 'they love to f....k' and she recommends Cuba if you 'like sex'. How sad, how patronising to the Cuban people.

Let me say that from my visits to Cuba the Cuban people are not at all as described in her gringa elderly hippie/rock chick jaundiced vision.

Little wonder she lives alone,surrounds herself with her 'gay friends' and her husband of 13 years has departed no doubt for a much younger more attractive and honest genuinely sexy female which his wife is anything but. Her brittle uptight and bony countenance, control freak approach to life and her (untrue) jaundiced depiction of Cuba and the Cuban people.

Take a look at her on her Cuba Libro FB page or on You Tube and you will see how the reality is so very different from her profile pic. taken 20 years ago. Looking a little hazy right now two decades later, lol.

I detest hypocracy.I hate it when so called 'Gingas' denegrade real Cubans of which she knows little since she moves/lives with the ex pat so called 'inteligencia' and arty crowd of Vedado who love to patronize Cubans and are as accurate in their depiction of 'real cubans' as the desperate houswives of New Jersey are on Ebola or what is going on in Gaza or Sierra Leone.

As one poster on here previously referred to the 'Sick Puppies' who flock to Cuba looking for an answer to their emotional problems, their unhappy dysfuncitonal childhoods.

You see them at the cheaper resorts, the 240 lb females lying like great beached white whales alwaqys in the shade. The sun bed groaning beneath them from their weight.

Then you see the likes of Ms Gory castigating and denegrading ordinary Cuban people on their 'Annoying Habits', people who have done nothing to her but offer her hospitality which she does not deserve.

I would recommend that the 'Gringa' go home. She has exhausted her stay in Cuba.
Her jaundiced view of Cuba as seen through her ageing 'rock chick' bitter and jaded eyes is neither real nor relevant.

Gringa Go Home!

Jan 16, 2015
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Beware All Resort Workers! NEW
by: Craig - Ottawa

To the ladies and men on here, you need to be very careful of all resort workers in Cuba, since they truly are the biggest hustlers/players of all.

Resort workers are the biggest players in Cuba they have perfected the art of the con the scam and the hustle over the years, on a weekly basis with the arrival of each new plane full of tourists.

They will always be 'single' will always make you feel so very special, the only one they are attracted to. They will have strong feelings for you. Will tell you they love you within a few days of your arrival.

Do not believe them, they are hustlers who are playing multiple yumas.

the biggest hustlers work the small cheaper resorts because they know they will have access to nicer folk, on a budget and with a great chance of scamming you. You might be lonely. A single guy.

Watch out especially if they work on the animation team, they are natural born hustlers /actors who have perfected the art of lying and scamming you for money, presents anything they can extort from you.

I was played big time by a hooker who poses as an animation person at a small hotel off the beaten track in Rafael Freyre. It the kind of place where old men go to sleep with young Cuban working girls. it's convenient for them because it is not just cheap, but the gals are cheaper. A plus is the onsite doctor who gives out penicillan jabs to the working girls, since they tend to change partners faster their underwear.

I went there not for a woman, but to get away from the stress of work. I was hit on the first night by this woman who is supposed to be the 'animator' but spends all of her time hitting on single male guests.


She suggested a walk along the beach at midnight. Told me she was falling in love with me. Now this is hilarious I had only been there a day. She suggested we book into a four star hotel in Guardalavaca so that we could be alone, since they were on to her hustle at the D.L in Rafael Freyre and she could loose her job if we were seen together. Now this is a laugh as other guys told me I was not the first and would not be the last she had hit on.

She wanted to have my babies, wanted me to build her a house. Not important to her that I already had a partner, no she loved me and was prepared to share.

Guys this is an example of how you will be played for a patsy at those resorts. Does not matter why you go there. In my case it was to chill out and do some fishing or snorkelling.

Had I been more naive I might have gone along with this hustlers little game plan, but I had been warned. And sites like this one are a great source of help and good advice.

Despite the fact that the D.L has an onsite doctor giving daily jabs to the working gals, be warned, much of the kind of STD's doing the rounds at these resorts have become resistant to STD's through overuse. The Cubans pop these pills like we eat M&M's and pills are freely available in Cuba and can even be purchased for a peso or two over the counter. So they have lost their effectiveness.

Guys be very careful, and if you are temped be sure to wear ultra strong protection or you might be returning home with way more than a box of Cuban cigars and a bottle of rum.





Aug 31, 2014
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They Are All Scammers Believe Me! NEW
by: Anonymous

I was not surprised to read Erica's post. Just about every Cuban man is on the make. They see us as cash cows to be used.

They grow up being spoon fed, indulged by their mothers. Knowing only a socialist state which doles out free education free health care, raciones, housing etc. Why would they want to get off their lazy butts to work or make an effort. It's a gimmee something for nothing culture.

When they manage to scam a woman into a fake marriage they do not want to work, they have not been conditioned to work. They are lazy like the Dominicans and prefer to lounge around all day drinking rum, thinking that society owes them a living. Partying each night. They do not know the meaning of the word loyalty, fidelity.

They become abusive, aggressive when a partner challenges them on their lazy abusive lifestyle. to them it's the norm, how dare you question how they live.

Ladies and men on here, take my advice, leave them there. Do not allow these skivers to use and abuse you. They do not know the meaning of love or loyalty and belong in Cuba where they can milk the system and use and abuse their own.

Aug 10, 2014
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We Were Conned By Jorge Also. NEW
by: Anonymous

Hey Dan, this Jorge guy who pimped for Vivian in Santiago, seems to get around.

On our first visit to Havana we were ripped off by a so called 'guide' called Jorge who also worked for Cubanacan in Havana.

A tall guy with the biggest cheesiest fake grin, Jorge 'guided' us to the most expensive bars and cafes and clubs in Havana where we had to pay over the odds. This con artist was clearly on a kickback.

He suggest lunch at a 'great little paladar' that he knew. The best in Havana apparently.

We were led like lambs to the slaughter to Jorge's suggested paladar where he joined us for lunch and ate his way through the menu. We were landed with a bill for 90 CUC for three of us. We were stunned.

The cheesy Jorge did not say so much as 'gracias' as he made his excuses following his four course lunch and left to no doubt rip off another naive yuma on their first visit to Havana.

Do not use a guide. For one they know less about the city than you do. Most tourists will have read a guide book or used a good website like this one for information prior to their trip. Sites like this are very informative and more up to date on the best bars and paladars than any that a rip off merchant like Jorge will lead you too.

Hustlers like Jorge are always on a commission. They will always recommend a 'Great Little Casa' always owned by their 'Tia'.

They will always know of the great bar, club, restaurant where they will always receive a kickback from the owner for introducing the latest walking wallets from Toronto or Montreal.

In hindsight we were very naive to have opted to use a guide at all. It was our first visit and we were smooth talked into being shown around. Little did we know that had we stuck to the itinerary in our Lonely Planet and Rough Guide we would have had a much better time and not been taken to the cleaners by the notorious Havana hustlers who are paying the likes of hustlers like Jorge to prop up their not so good businesses.

The touts will only 'guide' you to the most expensive commercial bars restaurants and clip joints posing as 'night clubs' where they will knock back as many overpriced Mohitos and Cuba Libras that you are mug enough to pay for. If any of the venues recommended by these hustlers were any good they would reply on word of mouth recommendations and not have to pay kickbacks to the likes of cheesy hustlers like Jorge.

Jul 26, 2014
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Never Trust A Tout - You Could End Up In A Brothel NEW
by: Dan

We arrived in Santiago and went straight to the Casa which was recommended in our guide book. It was central with a balcony. Unfortunately it was not available.

As we left we were approached by a tout who told us his Tia had a casa close by - Casa Vivian, with a terrace and great views.

We were wary of recommendations by touts as it always hikes up the price by at least 10CUC. He was insistent that we at least look, and we hot and weary from out journey so we agreed to have a look.

Situated in the Santa Lucia/Corona area close to Padre Pio, down a steep hill the terrace views of the ocean and mountains were indeed beautiful even if the room was very basic.

The following morning we met a very elderly French man on the terrace entertaining his young Jinetera, He was about to depart for Haiti on boat he informed us.

That afternoon an elderly Italian - Gennaro checked in. Must have been at least 75, his Cuban friend no more than 15.

Within 30 minutes we hear her sobbing in the hallway. He had not paid her. Though she 'was not a Jinitera" she informed us. She needed the money for the journey home.

Gennaro promptly left and returns within minutes with yet another lady of the night whom he'd picked up in the Calle outside. We were stunned. He had offered her 10 Euros and a shirt her son.

By now we were becoming increasingly uneasy with the constant flow of traffic so had a word with Madam Vivian who shouted at us denying she ran a brothel and would not believe that Gennaro had been entertaining non stop.

She shouted at us and refused to refund our money. The cockroach skuttling across the kitchen floor and the maid asking if she could shower in our room which was the final straw.

We packed our bags and left.

A lesson learnt. Never listen or be guided by a tout.

They are always on commission and you're not likely to end up in decent acommodation or even a legal casa. Casa Vivian was not registered and her partner the cheesy Jorge who worked at a hotel for Cubancan clearly was her pimp as he had an endless supply of elderly Italians seeking to be entertained at Madam Vivian's casa.

We had read good reports of Santiago being a 'cultural jewel'.

We found it to be hot, smelly, and overfilled with rubbish and jiniteras with their elderly sugar daddies.

Everywhere we went we saw fat elderly Germans and elderly Italians cuddled up to girls young enough to be their grand daughters.



We were happy to depart Santiago for Holguin, a clean and cultured city with friendly people and best off it was tout free.

Fondest memory: Sala De Dolores. Teatro Oriente, View of the mountains from the terrace of Madam Vivian's illegal casa that turned out to be brothel.

Jul 25, 2014
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No Natinoality Is Better At Parting You From Your Money NEW
by: Anonymous

Vic, you should start a page entitled 'Scam In The City' since 'Love in the City' really does not apply to Havana or any city in Cuba.

Basically they are out to scam you for every CUC they can extract from you and they have many ingenious ways of doing so They are experts in the art of the con, the scam. Better than the huckster and his three card trick who always end up fleecing you, they could write the book on scamming and conning.

From the greedy mother who will pimp out her 15 year 'niece' or 'daughter' to a 70 year old Siciliano, to the mulatto charmer who will relieve you of every stitch of clothing in your suitcase and still want your cellphone and sneakers.

Our first enconuter with a hustler was the charming Jorge, a tall Mulatto with a cheesy smile who worked for Cubanacan in Havana. Jorge is master at the con of 'guiding' you to his friend's restaurants and bars.

He knows of the best (and most expensive) Paladars in Havana. I was stung for $50 yes I kid you not $50 and that was 10 years ago while con man Jorge stuffed his fat face with just about everything on the menu and left without saying so much as gracias. I felt I had been conned.

The vile Jorge reader his ugle head a few years later in Santiago. No working for a hotel in Santiago, he doubles as a pimp for an AfroCuban woman - a bitch called Vivien. Do not go there, it is a Brotherl Casa Vivien is not legal and Vivien who hides behind the sham of 'Santeria' is about as spiritual as Imelda Marcos. A hard nosed madam there is an endless stream of traffic - 70 year old Mafiosi types from Napoli wander in with girls as young as 15 which they hire for an hour.

On the roof terrace I met an ageing Italian who was about to depart on his yacht and was thinking of the best way to get rid of his jinitera whom he had booked for the night. She was arguing with him about the rate

It was not just the traffic of elderly men and whores, it was the cockroach and the maid who insisted on using my room to shower that made me decide I had to get out of this whorehouse asap.

Madam vivien screamed at me refusing to refund me for three nights, only when I was on the phone to the police that she finally three the money at me swearing in her finest santeria cursing me to high hell.

So yes the cheesy Jorge showed his smarmy face in Santiago when doubling as a Pimp for Madam Vivien.

I could write a book on these cheesy charmers, as I am sure many people who have been stung by the likes of Jorge could.

They are all over Cuba, not just in Havana, they work the beaches of Jibacoa, pleading poverty showing you a shack while collecting the dollars and laughing all the way to their bank. you will never see their real house piled high with the latest technology.

You will find them in Baracoa never working, oh no the Jinitero sees work as beneath him. why should he work when there are mugs like you and me who will believe his b.s. and fund him.

From the classical musician in Santiago who will plead undying love in order to use you as a visa provider to the male and female whore in Havana who has never worked a day in their life, their 'work' is hustling you, you will meet them, and it is sad, because as much as we love Cuba they are the only stain on that beautiful island who will leave you with a tainted view and a bad taste and they need to be cleared off the streets and if they are not prepared to study work or contribute to their society then they need to be locked up or forced into community service since they are damaging the reputation of Cuba worldwide and effecting it's image in terms of tourism.

Mar 29, 2014
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CUBANOS ARE VERY SLICK NEW
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99% OF CUBANS ARE LOOKING TO INPROVE THEIR LIFE BY EXTRACTING MONEY FROM YOU. CAN YOU BLAME THEM? THEY HAVE NO FUTURE NOR A POT TO PISS IN. I HAVE BEEN THERE 57 TIMES SINCE 1993 SO YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT WHAT I SAY IS TRUE. THEY HAVE INGENIOUS WAYS OF EXTRACTING MONEY FROM YOU. I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGHT TO FIND A REAL PERSON 17 YEARS AGO AND AM STILL WITH HER. I AM VERY LUCKY. BELIEVE ME CUBANS ARE ONLY LOOKING FOR WHAT THEY CAN GET FROM U. IF YOU CARE TO CORRESPOND WITH ME, MY E MAIL IS PLU222@AOL.COM I AM GOINING BACK ON 4/3 FOR 2 WKS. I THINK I AM AN EXPERT ON CUBANOS & CAN GIVE YOU THE REAL SCOOP. I LOVE THE PLACE BUT MY LIMIT IS 2 WKS. CUBANS ARE VERY SMART AND KNOW HOW TO RELIEVE YOU OF YOUR MONEY. I HAVE TRAVELED TO 69 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES & NO ONE IS BETTER AT PLAYING YOU THEN CUBANS.

Mar 29, 2014
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The same Cuban? NEW
by: Anonymous

Dear Erica! Your story is very similar to mine. I think we are talking about the same person, I mean Cuban. What hotel did he work?

Jan 18, 2014
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Not so greedy...
by: Anonymous

Erika, I don't think it is unreasonable for someone to ask for gifts like a memory stick or even a pair of shoes. A request for a cellphone would be different, of course...

Dec 31, 2013
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honesty
by: CherrCuNa

DOnt bring anything, just return it, get your money back, bring money exchange it in the cadeca and go out to different clubs dance party enjoy, have a good time, do not fall in love in cuba truth be told unless you were actually raised there, just enjoy have a god vacation :)

Jan 29, 2013
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Update
by: Anonymous


Thanks for your comment !! I am so sorry for what happened to your daughter. I hope and pray that she can find peace in her heart. She deserves so much more than that.


As an update to my original story, I broke it off with the %$#$%. My eyes were opened when he all of a sudden started to ask me for many things. He was good at first but then wanted shoes, a memory stick, things for his daughter. I realized that this relationship would never be equal and that I would always have this worry. I am a smart, pretty girl and I think I just got lost in the idea or romance there.

I have since met an amazing man here in Canada who is ironically Dominican... I guess I have a little latino thing! lol. He has been in Canada for 10 years and is a citizen, has a job and owns his house. He does not want anything but love from me.

I learned my lesson and have seen many crazy things at Brisas hotels.

Caution to all of you who are interested in a Cuban... With many trips there I have learned that nothing is how it seems.

Cheers !!

Jan 28, 2013
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MARRIAGE TO LEAD SINGER IN BAND
by: Anonymous


I JUST WANT THIS TO BE A WARNING!!!!!
PLEASE DO NOT FALL FOR THE LIES AND DECEIT OF CUBAN MEN!!!
MY DAUGHTER MARRIED AT THE BRISAS HOTEL LAST AUGUST TO SOMEONE SHE TRUSTED, WHO CAME FROM A RELIGIOUS FAMILY WHO EMPHASISED HOW HONEST HE WAS.
WHAT A JOKE, MY DAUGHTER HAS SPENT £30,000 ON THIS RELATIONSHIP, PAID FOR CLOTHES FOR ALL HIS FAMILY TO ATTEND THEIR WEDDING, LAPTOPS, CELL PHONES, SHOES, PAID FOR THE WEDDING, PAID FOR CONVERTIBLE CARS BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE HE WOULD ACCEPT!!!!
HE IS NOW IN MEXICO, WHERE HE HAS FREEDOM ON FACEBOOK, PORN MODELS ETC AND THE TRUTH HAS NOW COME OUT! HE HAS DIRESPECTED OUR WHOLE FAMILY NOTHING BUT A LIAR AND CHEAT. KEPT THE PROMISES OF UNDYING LOVE GOING FOR WELL OVER A YEAR AND WAS SO EAGER TO GET MARRIED. HE HAS OTHER OPTIONS IN MEXICO AND MIAMI NOW SO I WILL BE GLAD WHEN THE DIVORCE IS OVER. SO MUCH FOR THE PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH THE INSTITUTE OF MUSIC IN HOLGUIN!!!

Jun 18, 2012
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Re:Erika
by: Guido


Hi Erika,
I'm a 37 Italian guy and my first trip to Cuba was in 1998.
In between I was all around the world for work(6 years on cruise line)and pleasure, I got married and divorced but I never stop to visit the island.
During all these years I did a lot of friends of all the possibly ages,either female and men.
I never been there looking for...LOVE, Do u know what I mean!,but in early December 2008 I met, while I was paying my electricity bill,a girl.
She was the cashier. I don't want to tell u how difficult was get a date even asking for daytime.
Well end of the story we're engaged since February 2009 and never since the first day I met her she asked me for a cent! Believe me I done all the possible check 'cause I knew it how it works over there, now I'm a member of her family planning to move there(she never wanted to leave the country).
That's just to tell u: YES!Cuba is plenty of honest trustworthy people like every other country , don't rush take your time and good luck.
Sincerely Guido

Jun 16, 2012
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Yes, there are honest Cubans
by: Kat



Six months ago I had a holiday in Cuba. I made several Cuban friends, both men and women, and of all ages. Without exception they invited me to their homes, introduced me to their families and invited me to have a meal or a coffee with them. Not one of them so much as hinted that they wanted anything from me apart from the opportunity to practise speaking English. One woman gave me some Cuban souvenirs, one of the men gave me flowers simply because I had a "beautiful smile" and a third person took me to a doctor when I fell ill. I exchanged email and postal addresses with them all and I am still in regular contact with them. The most I have given them are photographs and postcards of my country and my letters written in broken Spanish. I'm not an expert but I think the way to meet "honest Cubans" is to avoid the resorts and let the locals extend their hospitality towards you first. If they are genuine they will NEVER hint or ask for anything.

Apr 26, 2012
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Back from my trip
by: Erica

Well, I'm back from my vacation and I had the most wonderful time. I went back in hopes that I could gain some clarity but returned even more conflicted than before I left!!!

The boy is amazing, and we had the most wonderful times together. It has been a long time since I have felt this way, and the thought that it may not be genuine is twisting me. I've read so many horror stories online that I am now so afraid and am analyzing EVERYTHING!! My gut tells me he is genuine, but I just don't know after reading all these horror stories.

While in Cuba I have met MANY guys who tried to lay on the "games" on me. Both hotel front lobby workers gave me pretty much the same story "from the minute I saw you, I thought OMG she is so beautiful, there is something about you, I never do this with other tourists, it's just something about you. I am married and I have a good life, I don't want to go to Canada, there is just something about you". BOTH of their stories were pretty much the same line by line. I felt like telling them to change their stories haha. I met other people who "loved" me. I could sense the fakeness from these boys, with this one I can't. So either he is for real, or a very good actor!!

With my boy, it FEELS genuine. He is a musician and plays at 2 resorts, hence does have access to tourists, though has said that he has never had a relationship with a tourist. Everything I have observed this far seems to confirm this. At both resorts there are many regulars who stay most of the winter, he was openly affectionate with me in front of them, and in speaking with them they have not seen him with any other tourists.

When he speaks to me, looking into his eyes, I feel like he is being real and true. But after reading the stories online, could i really be part of the 0.01% of the population who seem to find true love in Cuba? I'm more confused than ever!! Am I being naive? I just don't know!!!

Apr 05, 2012
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Will post more after my trip
by: Erica

Thanks for the comments Vic and other person! I am leaving Wednesday for Chivirico, Cuba (6 days from today).

I will be spending my week vaca with the boy and his brother. Both of them have the whole week I am there off work. I am really looking forward to it. I am going into it with a good head and good amount of judgement. I am much less naive after reading so many stories online. I would however be lying if i said i wernt hoping that my case would be one of those rare happy ending stories! I guess thats the thing in life, you never know. And if you don't take chances, then you would never know. Anyways, i feel good and educated and feel like I can use my head over my heart if needed.

I did buy some things for them. I told them I did not have much money after buying the ticket but opened an offer to any little things they could use. They said just my presence was enough at first, then came back asking for pens, and ballons and sports shoes for a daughter. I figured, hey, these are things that cost me next to nothing. They can use them or sell them on the black market. I dont care, as long as it helps them somehow I am happy to do it. I will make sure I am firm with them and let them know I am no walking ATM but don't mind doing the little things I can.

I will add a post about my journey upon my return!


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