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'Mi Mujer' - Two words as Toxic as 'Te Quiero Mucho' in Cuba!.

by Michelle
(Montreal)

In a relationship based on love and trust any woman would love to hear the words 'My Woman' or 'I Love You'.

Not in Cuba.

When you hear the words 'Mi Mujer' they come with a lot of baggage.

It's as if you are suddenly relegated to being his property and all that it entails.

I have heard stories of women hearing those words in the space of a week, and what does the title of his 'Mujer' entail?

If you are mug enough to go along with it you could find yourself being manipulated into thinking that since you are 'his' woman you should return as soon as possible as he misses you so very much. And his shoe size is 42, he so desperately needs shoes and lost his job for turning up in flip flops!.

As his Mujer you could make communication so much easier by providing him with a cellphone! He would feel so much closer to you when you are apart.

Of course unbeknownced to you there are at least 10 other women who believe they are his Mujer.

Hence the really cool fashionable designer cut offs he's been wearing and that watch was never sold in the threadbare shop in his local town. And what about those Armani shades? From the local market? Don't think so.

As his 'Mujer' he would expect you to book him into your resort hotel when you return. After all he cannot be expected to 'Sleep on the Beach'!!.

He might also suggest a fantastic casa complete with kitchen (recommended by no one else on the planet but him) where you can cook for him every day and you can enjoy lots of 'privacy'.

But what about his work?

Oh no problem he can get compassionate leave. His employers are very lenient he gets time off when all of his mujers visit.

He will take you on lots of excursions, he has the time, all the time in the world and he knows all of the beauty spots. He knows a guy with a taxi, great rates.

He has calculated a whole itinerary for every day of your stay.

But of course he does not want your money he wants your heart!.

And no he would not like to live in Canada, Europe the States. He is so happy in Cuba and loves his family and would hate to leave them.

You should live with him and his mother and grandmother and five brothers and sisters in their cramped little ramshackle apartment on the 10th floor of the Stallinist block with a very fat pig on the tiny balcony that attracts a swarm of giant flies daily.

So you could live happily every after with him, until of course you suggest you might prefer to return home and he would consider joining you if you send him a ticket and fork out at least $5,000 in notary fees, visas, marriage license, air fares, etc. etc.

But of course that is the least you can do for him, it's what is expected of you. Because after all you are his Mujer.

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Sep 15, 2010
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Cuba's Become A Lazy Ass Nation- Raul Is Dealing With The Problem
by: Bill

Yesterday Raoul Castro announced he was going to shed lots of the bone idle work shyworkers from the State payroll.
He said he could simply not afford any longer to carry the lazy workshy state workers any longer and there would be lots of lay offs.  I applaud Raul Castro for tacklng a problem that was long overdue.   

We all know workers who feel smug they have a job for life. Who spend their working days sending personal emails or charging Cubans to send emails and who are a buden on the hard pressed cash strapped country.  So well done Raul!! I applaud your actions!.  

These lazy fat cat state work shy state workers will be put to work in lower paid agricultural work.   

Today, by sheer coincidence, a U.K. Union Leader also attacked the State sector Work Shy.  

Saying it is time they were tackled and the country could not longer afford to carry them while they sat on their arses collectng a salary for doing nothing more than idling their day away sending personal emails and logging on to Facebook or bunking off as sick.

Riddled with the bone idle':  

Fire chief's devastating verdict on public sector  'More with less': Fire chief Tony McGuirk said he has been able to slash staff numbers and increase productivity  The public services are riddled with 'bone idle people who have damaged the productivity of the state sector, a leading fire chief has claimed.

In a withering attack on the malaise gripping the public sector, Tony McGuirk has warned that unless bosses are prepared to sack lazy workers, they will never make the kind of savings necessary to put the economy back on course.

Mr McGuirk, chief fire officer of Merseyside, sparked outrage at the TUC conference yesterday by saying that he has been able to slash staff numbers by 40 per cent and actually provide a better service.

He advised other public sector bosses to show muscle, sack some people?.

We've got some bone idle people in the public sector. There, I said it bone idle people?

Mr McGuirk said he had slashed the number of firefighters from 1,550 to 850 during the past decade.

There is no need to close a fire station, we haven't touched a single fire station.
Frontline is fire engines and fire stations, not firefighters. We provide a far better service with those 850 more with less

He claimed that lazy workers had led to an epidemic of sickness leave? which had damaged productivity.

Lazy Parasites who collect salaries for doing nothing is not a problem confined to Cuba.

It is a worldwide epidemic. Thankfully our polticians are waking up to the fact and tackling the problem and sacking the work shy parasites who are a drain to any economy.
  

Sep 14, 2010
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The Dr. Is Exploiting the Whole Town.
by: Jennfer

He is using the Cuban Healthcare Network SLD to send emails for lots of people who have no access to the net.

He charges them 1 cuc a time, but is obviously on the make and by including casa suggestions he can make a commission. I wondered why the emails always asked for my exact date of return when even I did not know that.

When he probably was not getting money from my friend at the time he was out of work he deliberately sent me an email from a man I did not know, it was very loving.

I assumed it was my friend playing a trick on me so I deliberately did not return there last January as a result of this. So the Dr. has been playing games.

He also sent me an email last month addressed to Yxxxx, and signed by my friend, as though I would think my friend was writing to another woman.

He really is a scumbag, abusing the Cuban Healthcare website for profit and taking advantage of poor Cubans. He is apparently a gynacologst and head of Maternal homes. I presume he manages homes for the infirm. But he has a position of power. And is online all day abusing that position.

I will find out the name of the person to contact at the Ministry of Health in Havana and let them know what exactly is gong on.

Sep 14, 2010
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I Am Disgusted !
by: Jennifer

Thank you for understanding Grace. You're a very smart woman. You're right it has been doing my head in, realising that the Doctor and his wife (though it could be him posting as the wife xxx) was in fact altering the text and not sending me messages as written by my friend.

Yesterday I was quite stressed about it. But now I am mre calm and feel angry that this doctor (who makes a point of using Mcs on every email) is, as you rightly said, out to make a fast buck since he knows my frend has no money. My friend is not devious or cunning.

What set the alarm bells ringing was when I began to feel pressurised by all the emails sent via the Dr.'s account. There was always a pressure to accept a 'Great Casa' 'muy barrata' etc. Also the wording became gurbbier. He used words that my friend never would.

When he emailed me from his friend J's account it was so much more him, natural no vulgar sex references, no casa suggestions.

I sent a few of the Dr's emails to him at J's email add. and my friend was shocked, he said it has got out of control. Even worse after I complained to the Dr. he then told my friend I no longer wanted to see him, I presume this was because I had blocked the doctor and he knew his game was up so he tried to do his best to break up the relationship between me and my friend. As there was nothing in it for him.

How nasty!.

Strangely enough my friend had mentioned a month ago that he did not trust the Dr. and would be emailing me from J's acct. but J's wife had a baby and there was no access for a while so he depended on the Doctor's acct.

Sep 14, 2010
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Jennifer.. re emails
by: Grace

I have read a few of your posts regarding these emails you are receiving from this Dr.... what on earth is going on???, is this Dr playing a game with you?, it must be doing your head in.

The thing is, that if this DR and his bit is writing them on behalf of your friend, your friend probabaly doesnt know what he is writing, so he could be writing anything saying its from your friend.

Are the written in English or spanish?, reason I am asking that if your friend cant speak much english, and you dont speak much spanish, then your friend could be telling the DR to write XYZ, but the DR is writing what thinks he should write and your friend is none the wiser, plus he knows your friend has no money to give him, so by saying its your friend thats writing or asking, at least he thinks he might get something out of it.
One thing I found out quite quickly which was a suprise to me, is that even family members wont give anything to another family member unless there is something in it for them.

My friend uses the goverment computer, he writes in spanish, but sometimes he gets his friend who can speak very good english to write to me in english, sometimes the odd word get disjointed, but I can still understand what he is trying to say.
I know they have to pay for it, this is why I told him I dont want 7 emails a week, 1 a week, or even every 10 days suits me, as I wouldnt want him to email me any more than that anyway lol, as then he might start saying he needs money for it, so this way, it doesnt work out too expensive for him.
The odd time he has rung me, or I have rung him at his mothers, but again, its like once every 3 months, as I dont want to start that business either

What has your friend said after you told him what this Dr.... doing?

Sep 13, 2010
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So Right
by: Anonymous

I could not agree more with the last post.

Of the 11 Million Cubans only 10,000 of them have access to the internet.

80% of that 1% is owned by the State.

You can make your own conclusions are where the power and contol lies.

Sadly that power is all too often abused.

Sep 13, 2010
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The Wealthiest Cubans are the Greediest and Most Manipulative
by: Jennifer

As we have seen Cuban men are not hard up. But it's not the working class guy who's the greediest or the pushiest. It's always the Cuban educated middle class professonals who are behind the bggest scams and are out to con you.

I do not know how the communicaton goes between you and your friend. Increasngly I began to feel pressurised by the toone of the emails sent via a woman called Yuyi and her husband Dr. xxxxx who shares the surname with the last Spanish Dictator.

The pressure was relentless as to when I was returning, which day exactly which month. He knew of a great casa. My friend uses two people to send emails.

The ones from Dr. xxxxx were always the ones I felt most pressure from. Lately the tone was more sexualy explicit.

Emails sent from his friend J...never were like that, They were affectionate just like him.

Last week I blocked the Dr. and his bit on the side xxxx.

Lo and behold the Dr. added another initial and continued to bomard me wth a triade of abuse and defending his emails signed in his own name.

I copied his emails and forwarded them to my friend at the other acct. He was stunned and felt betrayed.

We really do have to question who is behind the emails we are receiving and what is their motive. Of course it is always money.

But it's disgusting they betray the poor Cubans in this way.

Sep 12, 2010
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Sounds Like A Good Relationship Grace!.
by: Jennifer

Good for you for sticking to your guns and not maintaining him.

It never ceases to amaze me the lengths the Canadians will go to in order to keep a Cuban man half their age. In a small town near Holguin I met a French Canadian grandmother in a local restaurant. One of the women who lives in the town said the grannie had been returning for the past 6 years and maintains not only the younger lover but his wife and kids as well. I was stunned!.

Stunned that she could be so foolish and shocked that his wife goes along with it.

Now whenever my bloke drops even a small hint about how costly it is to keep emailing me I tell him he should be looking for an older chubbby Canadian Tellytubbie woman to maintain him and fly him to Canada. I mean whenever I am there time I see 200 lb. 50 something Canadians on heat at the resorts with to boys.

and boy do they knock it back smoking and drinking like men.

That always really angers him. He rants on about not all Cuban men being the same and should not be judged so.

He knows I am only joking, but so many of them go down that route. who knows perhaps he is one of the few who has some self respect and integrity. I could not be with a dependent man, a parasite. I would not respect him so it would not work out for me.

I hope I have not let all hell break lose over there. I have blocked the Dr. who sends the emails and called his wife a ..'Five Peso Puta'. I quite like that line. I might use it in the book.

I am planning to write a comedy on the characters I have met. I think I'll call it 'Te Quiero Mucho' - A Cuban Comedy.

It would be hilarious :).

We have to laugh Grace. Life is too short not to.

Sep 11, 2010
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Thankyou for not being offended
by: Grace

Hi jennifer, No, I havent seen them behave disgracefully either in Cuba, but I did in Gambia, the same as we british disgrace ourselves in the spains, greece, cyprus, I am so ashamed at times to be british, as we are all not the same.

The reason I mentioned the dutch in Gambia, as it was like a two horse race lol, who was the worse, the dutch or the british, Like I said previously I am not having a go, but its very difficult for me to explain what I am trying to say lol,in Gambia, its the Dutch and the british, in Goa/india, its the Russians and the british,in Cuba, its mainly canadians, and it seems that certain countries that other countries visit, they seem to see as a hotspot.

I 100% agree with you regarding the majority of the british women that take the BS from thier british men, and in all honesty, the british women are harder workers than the men.

We have a lot of Eastern European people who come to britain to work, and through my line of work I get talking to the women, as I am really interested in people and thier cultures, and after talking to them, they tell me they are so amazed at how hard the british woman works, wheras, in thier opinion and I am not saying all british men, but the majority of them are lazy .......

Again you are right, they are not that bad off, they get looked after, and like we both said before, they havent a clue of what we have to pay out here in the western world, and if they had to work like we do, they would be falling on thier knees.
I would never support him either, I have not given him any money, like I said before he sent email asking, but I wiped the floor with him, but I have taken over the odd t/shirt (not che chavara) lol, or toiletries, but thats it, I have never given him Ipod, dvd player etc, and I have been with him 6 years, as he has to understand, like you have said also, that we can barely afford to pay for our own holiday, without keeping them.!

Sep 10, 2010
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No Need To Apologize Grace
by: Jennifer

With regard to the Dutch being brazen, as a race they are very fortright and women have been brought up to stand oon their own two feel, they do not take the B.S. that women from their men that British women do.

To be honest I have not seen too many Dutch women behaving disgracefully in Cuba. I saw lots of older Canadians of a very large girth with young men, half their age.

I did not sleep with my friend. We met at a Casa de la Trova and spent the week meeting up each night just chatting in the cold night air sharing Cuba Libre. One night I would buy a bottle next night he would. So it was not like he was using me.

I was just concerned about the status of g/friend. I do not want to go there. I would not respect a dependent man. I do realise the situation there is bad. But they are not hungry, they are a healthy well fed educated race. If they want to know about poverty or hunger they should visit Haiti or Africa.

So there is not a hope in hell that I will ever support him financially. If he expected that it would kill all my respect for him. He would lose me.

Sep 09, 2010
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Reply to Michelle
by: grace

We have been to the same countries lol, I think this is why I am open minded, and accept things for what they are.
I have been to Kenya, but TBH didnt see that much going on, but!!! when I went to Gambia, OMG, I have never seen anything like it, and I am ashamed to say, that the biggest culprits were the british women, followed by the 'dutch women' and they are more brazen than the brits, ( sorry jennifer) but, it was a toss up to see who were the most outragest, and the Dutch won hands down, with the brits, (am ashamned) a very close second.....
I am very open minded, I have to be, I have been to Cuba loads of times, and have a 'fren' lol, but Gambia is something else, the things I saw, you could not make it up.

The thing that gets me is that the gambian men think its the norm, they dont work, there is no work,except in the hotel trade, and that only lasts about 8 months of the year, so they have earn money another way ;-)
Gambia is worse than Cuba, so they latch onto a female, but the sad part of it is that the younger generation, ie, thier brothers cousins, think thats the way to make a living!!!! by sleeping with a sad old bint, and like you say... Aids!!!! they do not know what condoms are, well yes they do, but condoms are way down on thier list, as they leave it up to the sad old bints to provide them.

Because of my charity work and my travels, I find out a lot, plus I see a lot, I ask questions, as I am genuinly interested in other cultures, and its the same thing in Gambia as in Cuba
Loads of Gambian men have wives/girlfriends( same as in cuba) who accept the situation, cause they know that they are getting money from the daft old biddys, it is very sad, but if its any comfort to any female who is with a Cuban man, then, there is a lot worse countries than Cuba, honestly Cuba is a mere puppy compared to other countries, but I daresay they will soon catch up lol

Sep 09, 2010
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Only once he asked
by: Grace

Hi jennifer :-)

TBH, he hasnt really asked me for much in the 6 years, except some chocolate, and a baseball cap, which isnt bad considering, I have never brought over nike trainers, or Ipod etc, until last year he definately made a faux pas, when he asked me for a little money, and I refused, infact, if I am being honest, I was furious, and I wrote a very strong email, I called him every name under the sun,lol I wiped the floor with him.

I was really annoyed, as he knew my feelings on this, part of me tried to understand that he must have been desperate to ask, knowing that I do not take any prisoners on this sort of thing, but bearing in mind, that he thought I lived in what was an upmarket tool shed, and wore much the same clothes every time I visted, so he knew I didnt have much in the way of money or possesions, but I am quite solvent, but he does not know this.
Anyway, after the message and my very strong reply back to him, I never heard from him for 3 weeks, but thats okay, as I said things in my email to him that was really very direct, ( am being kind here),lol so I thought.... well, what will be will be, but he cracked,and contacted me, apologising for asking for money, I ignored his emails, not because I was being a hard b£tch, but because I was really annoyed, and my head was doing somersaults.
Anyway, we got it sorted out, and he knows never to ask me again, like I said before, I will always give, but never ask me, or presume I will give.

Sep 09, 2010
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What Does Being "Mi Mujer' Entail?
by: Jennifer

Grace you mentioned your six year relationship. what does that involve. Being his 'Mujer'?.

Does he expect you to send him money for example. It does seem to be the norm that once you have been fastracked to 'Mujer; status you're expected to maintain them.

I have witnessed this happening, where the guy has asked his 'fren' to send money so he can call her etc.and for day to day living etc.

Also did you locate your own place to stay or did he find it for you.

From reading through this website it's clear that Cuban men always have ways of making a commission on every aspect of their 'Mujer' or Yuma's visit to Cuba oonce they fast track her/them to that status.

Sep 08, 2010
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It is Sad To See.
by: Michelle

I stayed at an All- Inclusive in Varadero and the saddest sight I saw was a very tubby fifty something who flew in late one night from Canda to join her 25 year old Jinetero/model who waited for her in the lobby.

He looked gay, beautiful mulatto with his male friend. She paid for the 'fren' to stay also. Sad!. He clearly did not love her, but said he wanted to to live in Canada so he could support his Cuban novia and elderly parents, brothers and sisters. She was all over him and he clearly looked embarrassed. She kitted him out in the latest gear.

In Kenya I saw an old leather skinned cockney woman who had married a dancer less than half her age. She was incredibly ugly. Her face had more lines than Grand Central Station, she smoked drank and was a vulgar old hag.

Can you imagine marrying a Kenyan dancer, a country with a population of around 50% with Aids. How very desperate is that.

But the Cuban Jineteros really target the Fat Fiftysomething Canadians who are Manna from Heaven for them.

Sep 07, 2010
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Reply to Michelle
by: Grace

I always return, have done for 6 years, and I have never given Ipod, CD player or anything like that to my fren.

But I know exactly what you are saying about the older ladies who are grasping at thier last chance saloon, and at the end of the day if they know the score and can accept it for what it is, then fair play to them, but unfortunately some do get burned.
I am not fat and fifty lol, but I have the maturity of a fifty year old, and see it for what it is.

I have been to other poorer countries, and seen the F&F grab onto young 24 year olds, and they are happy, ( for that short time ), TBH, I cant see the attraction myself, but whatever floats thier boat I say lol

Sep 04, 2010
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Be Sure You Don't Kit Him Out In Style!
by: Michelle

Grace my post was hypothetical. There is no way I'd give presents to a leech!. You have to be kidding!!.

I hope when you return you do not make the mistake of doing what I've seen other women do. Cell phone, designer gear. IPods.

They don't appreciate it believe me.

They are a generation raised in austerity, make and mend, don't throw away.

No advertising. They associate goodies with whores!!

Easy fat available middle aged women who can't get laid in their own country.

Seriously!.

Whores equal all Inclusives..

Large middle aged types who eat and drink 24/7 and who bring them iPods, Armani, Nilke,Tommy Hilfiger.

They actually despise those kind of women believe me.

They are seen as a pushover. Fat Fifty and Available!. An easy way out of poverty.

Remember you cannot purchase love, it sure as hell don't have no price tag.

Sep 01, 2010
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reply to Michelle
by: Grace

Michelle wrote{{{{ Hence the really cool fashionable designer cut offs he's been wearing and that watch was never sold in the threadbare shop in his local town. And what about those Armani shades? From the local market? Don't think so.}}}}

The thing is, that they are not really that clever are they?, if they have a few women on the go, then why on earth turn up to meet her with designer gear,( that she hasnt bought) that only shows that he is getting it from somewhere else.

A really clever jintero/boyfriend/fren would not turn up in all his glory, Oh No!!, he will turn up in his ordinary clothes to put you off the scent, and you think... Awwww, poor carlos/roberto/whatever his name is, he is not a jintero.scam artist/ 'look at the way he is dressed, poor bu55er, I know, I will buy him something, or bring it over next time, so off she goes, and buys him some nice clothes, which he puts away till she comes over again, then he wears them with pride, so you recognise them,and think, awwww, bless, he's wearing them for me, but, when he is trying the hard done act on others, he will wear his normal clothes, that is a true, and very clever scam artist lol

Aug 29, 2010
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Thank You Pilon
by: Michele

That you for your kind words.

I think us lades should support our fellow tourists who travel to Cuba unaware of the pitfalls, those who are naively unaware that those sweet words 'Te Quiero Mucho' and 'Mi Mujer' has as much truth as George Bush's 'Weapons of Mass Destructon'.

They are lies, spun by those desperate to flee poverty to a better life, spoken by those who are to lazy to get their asses out of bed each day for 15 CUC a month.

And let's face it you get loafers everywhere. But more so in Cuba. A whole generation of them.

I do not want to write off all Cuban men, there are many decent men with dignity who work every day and who do not target tourists.

The hustlers who do target foreign women have an agenda, to make as much as they can through knowing you.

So ladies just say no when a guy approaches you and asks if you need a casa, cigars, a great restaurant, a guide etc.

They will always have an ulterior motive as many on here have testified. Just read through some of the heartbreaking stories.

We need to start a gallery of shame. Upload the con men mug shots.
COMMENTS by Vic webmaster

First this: I fully understand the bitterness and resentment of people who have been scammed and cheated especially those who are vulnerable.
Cheating and scamming is ALWAYS wrong!
On the other hand we have the privacy legislation.
Publishing pictures and names can cause privacy problems. I propose to describe the bad practices, the scams etc. to educate our visitors instead of publishing names.
I have already removed names on request. Let us explain the scam mechanisms to avoid future damage to Cuba travellers.
The best to all of you!

Aug 29, 2010
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Mi Mujer
by: Pilon

Michelle, You are so right....you have covered all the things that actually do happen...Im sure they get taught this in grade 5. Hopefully you have saved someone alot of pain and sorrow by printing this.

Pilon

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